Part 10
forward, and stepped on his cigarette end. "As I understand it," he said, sitting back,
"you hold pretty firmly to the Vedantic theory of reincarnation."
"It isn't a theory, it's as much a part--"
"All right," Nicholson said quickly. He smiled, and gently raised the flats of his hands,
in a sort of ironic benediction. "We won't argue that point, for the moment. Let me
finish." He crossed his heavy, outstretched legs again. "From what I gather, you've
acquired certain information, through meditation, that's given you some conviction that
in your last incarnation you were a holy man in India, but more or less fell from Grace-"
"I wasn't a holy man," Teddy said. "I was just a person making very nice spiritual
advancement."
"All right--whatever it was," Nicholson said. "But the point is you feel that in your last
incarnation you more or less fell from Grace before final Illumination. Is that right, or
am I--"
"That's right," Teddy said. "I met a lady, and I sort of stopped meditating." He took his
arms down from the armrests, and tucked his hands, as if to keep them warm, under
his thighs. "I would have had to take another body and come back to earth again
anyway-I mean I wasn't so spiritually advanced that I could have died, if I hadn't met
that lady, and then gone straight to Brahma and never again have to come back to
earth. But I wouldn't have had to get incarnated in an American body if I hadn't met
that lady. I mean it's very hard to meditate and live a spiritual life in America. People
think you're a freak if you try to. My father thinks I'm a freak, in a way. And my
mother--well, she doesn't think it's good for me to think about God all the time. She
thinks it's bad for my health."
Nicholson was looking at him, studying him. "I believe you said on that last tape that
you were six when you first had a mystical experience. Is that right?"
"I was six when I saw that everything was God, and my hair stood up, and all that,"
Teddy said. "It was on a Sunday, I remember. My sister was only a very tiny child then,
and she was drinking her milk, and all of a sudden I saw that she was God and the
milk was God. I mean, all she was doing was pouring God into God, if you know what I
mean."
Nicholson didn't say anything.
"But I could get out of the finite dimensions fairly often when I was four," Teddy said,
as an afterthought. "Not continuously or anything, but fairly often."
Nicholson nodded. "You did?" he said. "You could?"
"Yes," Teddy said. "That was on the tape . . . Or maybe it was on the one I made last
April. I'm not sure."
Nicholson took out his cigarettes again, but without taking his eyes off Teddy. "How
does one get out of the finite dimensions?" he asked, and gave a short laugh. "I mean, to
begin very basically, a block of wood is a block of wood, for example. It has length,
width--"
"It hasn't. That's where you're wrong," Teddy said. "Everybody just thinks things keep
stopping off somewhere. They don't. That's what I was trying to tell Professor Peet." He
shifted in his seat and took out an eyesore of a handkerchief--a gray, wadded entity--
and blew his nose. "The reason things seem to stop off somewhere is because that's the
only way most people know how to look at things," he said. "But that doesn't mean they
do." He put away his handkerchief, and looked at Nicholson. "Would you hold up your
arm a second, please?" he asked.
"My arm? Why?"
"Just do it. Just do it a second."
Nicholson raised his forearm an inch or two above the level of the armrest. "This one?"
he asked.
Teddy nodded. "What do you call that?" he asked.
"What do you mean? It's my arm. It's an arm."
"How do you know it is?" Teddy asked. "You know it's called an arm, but how do you
know it is one? Do you have any proof that it's an arm?"
Nicholson took a cigarette out of his pack, and lit it. "I think that smacks of the worst
kind of sophistry, frankly," he said, exhaling smoke. "It's an arm, for heaven's sake,
forward, and stepped on his cigarette end. "As I understand it," he said, sitting back,
"you hold pretty firmly to the Vedantic theory of reincarnation."
"It isn't a theory, it's as much a part--"
"All right," Nicholson said quickly. He smiled, and gently raised the flats of his hands,
in a sort of ironic benediction. "We won't argue that point, for the moment. Let me
finish." He crossed his heavy, outstretched legs again. "From what I gather, you've
acquired certain information, through meditation, that's given you some conviction that
in your last incarnation you were a holy man in India, but more or less fell from Grace-"
"I wasn't a holy man," Teddy said. "I was just a person making very nice spiritual
advancement."
"All right--whatever it was," Nicholson said. "But the point is you feel that in your last
incarnation you more or less fell from Grace before final Illumination. Is that right, or
am I--"
"That's right," Teddy said. "I met a lady, and I sort of stopped meditating." He took his
arms down from the armrests, and tucked his hands, as if to keep them warm, under
his thighs. "I would have had to take another body and come back to earth again
anyway-I mean I wasn't so spiritually advanced that I could have died, if I hadn't met
that lady, and then gone straight to Brahma and never again have to come back to
earth. But I wouldn't have had to get incarnated in an American body if I hadn't met
that lady. I mean it's very hard to meditate and live a spiritual life in America. People
think you're a freak if you try to. My father thinks I'm a freak, in a way. And my
mother--well, she doesn't think it's good for me to think about God all the time. She
thinks it's bad for my health."
Nicholson was looking at him, studying him. "I believe you said on that last tape that
you were six when you first had a mystical experience. Is that right?"
"I was six when I saw that everything was God, and my hair stood up, and all that,"
Teddy said. "It was on a Sunday, I remember. My sister was only a very tiny child then,
and she was drinking her milk, and all of a sudden I saw that she was God and the
milk was God. I mean, all she was doing was pouring God into God, if you know what I
mean."
Nicholson didn't say anything.
"But I could get out of the finite dimensions fairly often when I was four," Teddy said,
as an afterthought. "Not continuously or anything, but fairly often."
Nicholson nodded. "You did?" he said. "You could?"
"Yes," Teddy said. "That was on the tape . . . Or maybe it was on the one I made last
April. I'm not sure."
Nicholson took out his cigarettes again, but without taking his eyes off Teddy. "How
does one get out of the finite dimensions?" he asked, and gave a short laugh. "I mean, to
begin very basically, a block of wood is a block of wood, for example. It has length,
width--"
"It hasn't. That's where you're wrong," Teddy said. "Everybody just thinks things keep
stopping off somewhere. They don't. That's what I was trying to tell Professor Peet." He
shifted in his seat and took out an eyesore of a handkerchief--a gray, wadded entity--
and blew his nose. "The reason things seem to stop off somewhere is because that's the
only way most people know how to look at things," he said. "But that doesn't mean they
do." He put away his handkerchief, and looked at Nicholson. "Would you hold up your
arm a second, please?" he asked.
"My arm? Why?"
"Just do it. Just do it a second."
Nicholson raised his forearm an inch or two above the level of the armrest. "This one?"
he asked.
Teddy nodded. "What do you call that?" he asked.
"What do you mean? It's my arm. It's an arm."
"How do you know it is?" Teddy asked. "You know it's called an arm, but how do you
know it is one? Do you have any proof that it's an arm?"
Nicholson took a cigarette out of his pack, and lit it. "I think that smacks of the worst
kind of sophistry, frankly," he said, exhaling smoke. "It's an arm, for heaven's sake,
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